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10/14/2009 5:23 AM Long time realationships - a mans view (20 Comments)

thebabelfish
  • bob Verified Zorpian
  • 63, Philippines

Long time realationships - a mans view

Being a man I probably am very bias to my manly feelings my opinions unfortunately are geared to my gender. After spending 28 years in a relationship that I initially thought was the normal thing to do as part of my religious and social cultural indoctrination.

Yes life was all about earning money getting married and the having kids and keeping in line with the average type of family based advertising on seen on Television. There I was in a relationship with no real understanding of love how to be a parent or being able to understand female logic thinking.

I thought I was the boss and wore the trousers, but truthfully my female partner was running the show and she worked very hard on being a parent and keeping a ship shape house. I of course had little to say on running my home and when I did I was manipulated into thinking my partners way. I was the main cash earner though my partner worked over the years had many short careers.

But the reality was when I mess up Oh I did and then walked away from a marriage that had been more a cultural event of something I should do as part and parcel of being a man. I then found freedom to do what I wished to do and wanted do at the time and place of my choice.

But after a few years I became lonely for a woman, I had short relationships one night affairs and had even paid for sex when very drunk. But I felt there was something missing and life was not just about clubbing and pubbing I needed a female companion, however for three years or so after I had sicken of the fact that each time I tried to have a relationship with a live in lover the lover tried to use her feminine skills to control me and my life. Four relationships just feel apart one after the other. So I was on the short term relationship path until ones again things just did not feel right.

I then decided to retire early and seek warmer climates and cheaper economies to live I wanted to get involved in art and write a few books. My travels ended up in the Philippines, I was getting old but had still had fire in my blood and really felt the need to find a younger woman with no baggage that would respect as being the boss of the house though I did not want full dominance but left to do what I wanted to do.

I had been told that Filipino women respected the wishes of the husband, made good house wives. But boy was that information wrong I met a beautiful Filipino girl and fell really in love for the first time. Not worrying about the famine control thing and thinking the girl was deeply in love with me. But she was clever had boyfriends on the side of which I found out at the four year of our relationship when I was thinking we should get married. I found out that she was making love to an American friend of mine in a cheap motel. I was damn heart broken I had found out she had used my money to fund boyfriends and was thinking of dropping me for whom she thought was a richer man.

Since then I have found another partner that would not abuse my feelings though she is honest about the fact she is with me because I give her a better live and is more a friend than someone in love with me. I am the same with her I respect and like her for what she is, we both do not want to get married.

However I still have the problem of she, the 27 year old wants to control my life and she is more important than me when it comes to planning. Us men just can’t win we have freedom of thought and may want to be free but our sexual urges always end up with us kidding our selves we run our homes but in truth the women do in most cases.

I have now become to understand women and its took a life time in fact 63 years. Women are the real bosses and men are not free to really do what we want. Unless we are single.

10/14/2009 11:32 PMRe: Long time realationships - a mans view

Alfazemas
Mara 29, Portugal
Life can be so complicated...
I see many stories in net, and i hear many things from my granda and grandpa - they are together in marriage 56 years... but they also spent some time away one from each other for professional reasons.
My grandpa went to Mozambique to get better life, and for some while my grandma stayed alone with their kids in Portugal... She always told me: a women in those times should be all in family - help to provide food, take care of all family, be a real person on side of husband... I believe in that...
Im getting marry in 31th october, and i want a partner for life. Never do things to the others that u dont want to recieve...

10/15/2009 3:26 AMRe: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
When you first marital argument occurs please relate to whom wanted changes you or you new husband. lol

Look women can not help what they do its natural and not normally to do with greed, though there however are a good percentage of women that are very selfish.


10/15/2009 11:30 AMRe: Long time realationships - a mans view

sheflies2thenigh
retta 55, United States
Do you really believe your last paragraph? Women only take what they can..if they want it. The fact that women ran your life says more about you than the women.
Historically, women have always run the house. It is one of the few powers they have. And everyone must have some empowerment.
Women live in a world which is controlled by men. They have had to learn subtler ways to gain power.

10/15/2009 1:00 PMRe: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
yes it does say a lot about me doesn't it says that I was too busy to notice and that I went with the sway as most men do. Then suddly when I had time to really think the inspiration came I have been used, sob, lol

Your own last paragraph says it all, yes men thought they were in power. Subtiler ways expresses it all. That last remark shows a lot about you and especial American women of whom seemingly have gained more power over men than in europe.

I get American men bending my ear regularly about how demanding US women can be. But at a guess they also had no idea that the same problems here in the Philippines, lol They came here to get a submissive wife and find her families women are controlling their wife and their life.

Please don't get me wrong I have nothing against American women nor filipino ones but only relating what I have been told. Of course I am in trouble with some women by telling the truth as it is. lol

Your middle paragraph states the truth but most men did not realise their wife was totally in control at home, what I must add of them at home.


10/15/2009 10:21 PMRe: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

walksoftlys
Debbie Royal Zorpian  45, United States
this is only your truth

10/14/2009 5:27 AMRe: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
What i really would like to know is are there women out there that do not use femine skills to control men?

10/14/2009 7:05 AMRe: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

walksoftlys
Debbie Royal Zorpian  45, United States
you really opened up and wrote alot of your feelings:),...........i do believe there are many woman out there that do not manipulate men and are truly sincere

10/15/2009 3:11 AMRe: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
Impossible its all part of the human behavour thing and women find the need to manipulate its part of their programming. However the level of manipulation differers. I am always open about life and always analysing cultures, society and of course my fellow human beings.

My feelings are not an issue here but the facts are that men are never the boss but made to think they are anfd thats a process that took a long time for me to understand and now I understand it. I know there is nothing I can do about it, its natural and the way things are.

10/15/2009 4:45 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

walksoftlys
Debbie Royal Zorpian  45, United States
well i do not agree with you in your thoughts at all

10/15/2009 6:35 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
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10/15/2009 6:38 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
Of course you don't because you have a bias womans view as mine is a biased mans view.

So are you saying your man is the boss and you do not try to change his mind or point of view as he really is the boss?

So he can go out when he likes and do what he likes as long as he stays faithful?

So you would obey the normal weding vowes that state you should obey your husband?

Remember I stated within the forum article that I did have a biasness because I am a male. What I did not say is I love to tell and hear the truth.

I have nothing against women I have a beautiful partner now of whom admits she trys to turn things to her favour. She is honest most women are not concerning this factor

10/15/2009 7:58 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

walksoftlys
Debbie Royal Zorpian  45, United States
well i tell the truth ,i do not tell any man what to do in my relationships, to me a relationship should be equal,

why does one partner have to be dominant?

10/15/2009 11:15 AMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
Its not about telling people what to do its maniplation and not letting them do what they want to do.

Selfishness all ways makes a partnership one sided, a women tend to use femine skills to keep her man on what she thinks is the right track.

Yes partnerships should be 50% but those that think they are in one like that as I have done can find out it was not so.

I would love to question your partner on how he sees it.

10/15/2009 10:22 PMRe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

walksoftlys
Debbie Royal Zorpian  45, United States
do you like woman?

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10/16/2009 1:20 AMRe: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
Not all! only those that are not that selfish. Its actually hard to find one that is not now days in the West. Its not so hard here in the Philippines.

10/21/2009 11:59 PMRe: Long time realationships - a mans view

sheflies2thenigh
retta 55, United States
Bob.....most women are not selfish. You have had the misfortune and bad judgment to find two who were.
Most women want an equal partnership. A person, whether male or female, rarely respects someone who they control. Most women I know want a life partner they CAN respect in all ways.

Retta

10/22/2009 12:28 AMRe: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
Everbody has a selfish streak, so its impossible to find a woman without one. There is nothing wrong with my judgement it was all to do with trust and then deceit.

After analysing many relationships, mine are just a small percentage I have placed under scrutiny. Most are controlled by the woman, the tales of woe that I have heard about US women are very alarming. Many of the American men I have spoken to here in the Philippines have stated preference to Asian girls because they find US women are dominating.

Respecting hmmmmn! is that why women try to change the man they are with in the hope of molding a man into someone they can respect?

Most women are selfish but they can not reconise it as that's the way they are. Its however a natural thing within human society due to the fact it use to be a mans world. Also those women that want a life they see in femine magazines and strive to have ideal home and have one up on the jones next door. lol





10/22/2009 1:51 AMRe: Long time realationships - a mans view

henri99
HenriVerified Zorpian 105, Quezon City, Philippines
This is very interesting indeed.

Pls Allow me:

Relationships are created by all parties involved, let's say a man and woman relationship -- is created by the man and the woman.

That relationship started by a thought which defines how the relationship is going to be. That thought is defined by our wants, desires, likes and the likes... and been tainted with bad experiences firsthand, secondhand and thirdhand. That influenced our judgments, conclusions, considerations and decisions about how our relationship is going to be.

My definition of Firsthand, Secondhand and Thirdhand:
Firsthand experiences are what we went thru in life personally, that involves us directly. Secondhand is what we learned, felt and influenced thru our friends and neighbors and relatives, that we draw our own decisions, judgments, considerations and conclusions for lack of a better one. Thirdhand is what we come to agree on what we see from all media surrounding us--TV, Internet, Radio, Magazines, The Papers, including this discussion we are having here, etc, etc.

That first thought however is pure--meaning--all the perfect ideals that we want it to be. Untainted. But we come to this world by a relationship--a man and a woman--without which it would be impossible. This two people have formed an agreement (whether this is verbal, public, whatever, but the fact is, there is an agreement, otherwise they could not have been in a relationship) This agreement, however, is based on their judgments, conclusions, considerations and decisions. And this could be tainted. (I'm not saying it is right or wrong, because right or wrong is relative to what we agree.)

So we evolved because what we agree and accept evolves. And the majority leads. It is not uncommon to see fragments of society today. For example, we now have four genders; people who are politically neutral; and many more.

The experience of one man expressed in this discussion may well represent a fraction of a segment in our society--meaning--there are a few people if not several who shares and agree with the same experience because they can relate to his experience. Man or woman their agreement to his experience equates to their own reality. And so, thru this the experience is confirmed and will be recreated again, not necessarily by the same person but other people perceiving this experience and somehow triggers a desire, a want to experience the same, so the thought sparks, if it catches fire it will soon happen.

Given that, our definition of a relationship determines the outcome. Because the definition is the sum total of what we desire, want, believe, judge, conclude, consider and decide.

Therefore, if we can examine our desires, wants, beliefs, judgments, conclusions, considerations and decisions about relationships, we will always do what is ideal. Because man and woman are basically good and will always do good for the betterment of the relationship.

By examination, we can weed out what is not ideal and we hold on to what is pure.

Thank you for indulging me.

10/22/2009 5:11 AMRe: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

thebabelfish
bobVerified Zorpian 63, Dumaguete City, Philippines
Thanks for this very inteligent input of which I thoroughly agree with. Seems that you have done a lot of analysing at a much earlier age than myself.

11/4/2009 1:12 PMRe: Re: Re: Long time realationships - a mans view

henri99
HenriVerified Zorpian 105, Quezon City, Philippines
The pleasure is mine. And I thank you for the interesting topic you brought up.

I enjoyed the discussion and i enjoyed writing my thoughts.

May our relationships be what we truly want and build conciously. Cheers!
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